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	<title>Comments on: Newtown Meeting: the Elephant in the Room</title>
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	<description>Shouldn&#039;t the world&#039;s biggest issue be an election issue?</description>
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		<title>By: fuzzypeg</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/newtown-meeting-elephant-in-room/#comment-22</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arctic sea ice is currently about 1,500,000 square kilometers less than the 1981-2010 average. That&#039;s less ice, not more.

Extreme cold snaps are actually predicted by the climate scientists and show the accuracy of their models. The US didn&#039;t just have &quot;its coldest winter in living memory&quot;; that&#039;s untrue. It was colder than most recent winters, but most recent winters have also been exceptionally warm.

I&#039;ve read the evidence put forward by climate-change denialists (such as &quot;Lord&quot; Monckton)  in debate with credible scientists. I&#039;ve spent hours of my life following their arguments as they pull data out of context, misrepresent research and evade every criticism by changing the subject. I&#039;m a trained scientist myself and I can follow scientific debate pretty well. The denialists are just clowning around, I&#039;m afraid to say.

Put it this way: the evidence has to be pretty strong for a country like Saudi Arabia to approve the IPCC reports and effectively agree that burning oil is cooking the planet --- as much as they&#039;re kicking and screaming to not have it so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arctic sea ice is currently about 1,500,000 square kilometers less than the 1981-2010 average. That&#8217;s less ice, not more.</p>
<p>Extreme cold snaps are actually predicted by the climate scientists and show the accuracy of their models. The US didn&#8217;t just have &#8220;its coldest winter in living memory&#8221;; that&#8217;s untrue. It was colder than most recent winters, but most recent winters have also been exceptionally warm.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the evidence put forward by climate-change denialists (such as &#8220;Lord&#8221; Monckton)  in debate with credible scientists. I&#8217;ve spent hours of my life following their arguments as they pull data out of context, misrepresent research and evade every criticism by changing the subject. I&#8217;m a trained scientist myself and I can follow scientific debate pretty well. The denialists are just clowning around, I&#8217;m afraid to say.</p>
<p>Put it this way: the evidence has to be pretty strong for a country like Saudi Arabia to approve the IPCC reports and effectively agree that burning oil is cooking the planet &#8212; as much as they&#8217;re kicking and screaming to not have it so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Wolfson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ice expansion at both poles is at record levels. America recently experienced its coldest winter in living memory and is expected to have another this winter. Sea levels don&#039;t change much. There were times during the pre-industrial revolution when global temps were higher. Al Gore has always refused to debate credible climate scientists. I live in Helensville and used more wood in my woodburner than I have in 9 years. Global warming is the biggest hoax in history. I voted for Colin Craig!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ice expansion at both poles is at record levels. America recently experienced its coldest winter in living memory and is expected to have another this winter. Sea levels don&#8217;t change much. There were times during the pre-industrial revolution when global temps were higher. Al Gore has always refused to debate credible climate scientists. I live in Helensville and used more wood in my woodburner than I have in 9 years. Global warming is the biggest hoax in history. I voted for Colin Craig!</p>
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		<title>By: robi</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/newtown-meeting-elephant-in-room/#comment-16</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do NOT polute my mail box with yours socialistic propaganda !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do NOT polute my mail box with yours socialistic propaganda !!</p>
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