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	<description>Shouldn&#039;t the world&#039;s biggest issue be an election issue?</description>
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		<title>By: carson andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carson andersen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I support what you stand for.the er are too many cars.too much plastic floating on the ocean.It perplexes me why, when poor people in india,philipines etc, want cell phones,computers,etc,that they in there caveman ways dump rubbish,(burn),on top of water ways,drinking its poison,walking over filth,and in this  super modern world,people cant be bothered cleaning up their doorstep.Iwouldnt even travel to these poor regions,just dont get there mentallity.regards carson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support what you stand for.the er are too many cars.too much plastic floating on the ocean.It perplexes me why, when poor people in india,philipines etc, want cell phones,computers,etc,that they in there caveman ways dump rubbish,(burn),on top of water ways,drinking its poison,walking over filth,and in this  super modern world,people cant be bothered cleaning up their doorstep.Iwouldnt even travel to these poor regions,just dont get there mentallity.regards carson</p>
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		<title>By: John Hyndman</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hyndman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2016 06:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The general election is 18 months away.  Probably November 2017.
The Climat Party needs to get organized and take a serious stake in this election. 
Under MMP a SINGLE ISSUE party can have real power to influence governmental policy. 
We have a real opportuntiy to make a difference in the next government .
We need to get ourselves organized NOW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general election is 18 months away.  Probably November 2017.<br />
The Climat Party needs to get organized and take a serious stake in this election.<br />
Under MMP a SINGLE ISSUE party can have real power to influence governmental policy.<br />
We have a real opportuntiy to make a difference in the next government .<br />
We need to get ourselves organized NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Painting</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Painting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2015 23:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mack, there&#039;s all sorts of crazy on the internet and global warming denial is right up there with the worst of it.

What I have typically found is that global warming deniers are people who have trawled the internet to find climate myths that fit with their preconceived notions.  They then make it their mission to repeat these climate myths at every available opportunity. Any attempt to reason with these people, or point them to the mountain of scientific literature on global warming, is futile. 

When it comes to climate policy, there&#039;s only mainstream climate science to serve as a basis for current and future planning. Fringe scientists have had over a hundred years to present a compelling alternative theory but keep coming up with a big fat zero.

Accelerating ice mass loss around the world, rising sea levels, warming oceans and atmosphere show us that the Earth continues to warm as the mainstream scientific community predicted it would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mack, there&#8217;s all sorts of crazy on the internet and global warming denial is right up there with the worst of it.</p>
<p>What I have typically found is that global warming deniers are people who have trawled the internet to find climate myths that fit with their preconceived notions.  They then make it their mission to repeat these climate myths at every available opportunity. Any attempt to reason with these people, or point them to the mountain of scientific literature on global warming, is futile. </p>
<p>When it comes to climate policy, there&#8217;s only mainstream climate science to serve as a basis for current and future planning. Fringe scientists have had over a hundred years to present a compelling alternative theory but keep coming up with a big fat zero.</p>
<p>Accelerating ice mass loss around the world, rising sea levels, warming oceans and atmosphere show us that the Earth continues to warm as the mainstream scientific community predicted it would.</p>
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		<title>By: fuzzypeg</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fuzzypeg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2015 00:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mack,
I can&#039;t find anything in either of the links you provide to suggest that we &quot;are all terribly wrong&quot;. The first is a hysterical rambling about reds under the bed (or greens under the bed?) and the fact that NZ makes any effort to meet its commitments under the UN (who apparently have a sinister agenda). It doesn&#039;t even touch on the science of climate change.
The second (&quot;more technical&quot;) one is an explanation by a prominent Aussie denier for suddenly pulling out of a survey -- because she dislikes one of the questions (it asked if she believed climate change was occurring, rather than asking if she believed that &lt;em&gt;abnormally large&lt;/em&gt; climate change was occurring). Again, her post doesn&#039;t touch on anything scientific, nor offers any arguments for or against any view on climate change.
I don&#039;t understand where in these articles you felt the important points were.
I&#039;ve read a lot of denialist arguments -- ones that actually try to make substantive points -- and found in every instance that their arguments lead nowhere. If one wants to have more than passing familiarity with a subject it&#039;s important to seek sources that present all sides of an argument, and read and compare their points in context. So far I have yet to find any coherent or convincing evidence that the scientific majority have got it wrong, and with so many highly funded oil lobbyists out there seeking to discredit the science, it&#039;s a pretty safe bet that if there were such an argument it would have been trumpeted to the world by now. Instead we hear the same tired banalities that were thoroughly answered years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mack,<br />
I can&#8217;t find anything in either of the links you provide to suggest that we &#8220;are all terribly wrong&#8221;. The first is a hysterical rambling about reds under the bed (or greens under the bed?) and the fact that NZ makes any effort to meet its commitments under the UN (who apparently have a sinister agenda). It doesn&#8217;t even touch on the science of climate change.<br />
The second (&#8220;more technical&#8221;) one is an explanation by a prominent Aussie denier for suddenly pulling out of a survey &#8212; because she dislikes one of the questions (it asked if she believed climate change was occurring, rather than asking if she believed that <em>abnormally large</em> climate change was occurring). Again, her post doesn&#8217;t touch on anything scientific, nor offers any arguments for or against any view on climate change.<br />
I don&#8217;t understand where in these articles you felt the important points were.<br />
I&#8217;ve read a lot of denialist arguments &#8212; ones that actually try to make substantive points &#8212; and found in every instance that their arguments lead nowhere. If one wants to have more than passing familiarity with a subject it&#8217;s important to seek sources that present all sides of an argument, and read and compare their points in context. So far I have yet to find any coherent or convincing evidence that the scientific majority have got it wrong, and with so many highly funded oil lobbyists out there seeking to discredit the science, it&#8217;s a pretty safe bet that if there were such an argument it would have been trumpeted to the world by now. Instead we hear the same tired banalities that were thoroughly answered years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mack</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2015 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter Whitmore ,  (and others here)
 I&#039;m sorry , but you are all terribly wrong about Global Warming caused by humans.  Start reading here.....
http://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2013/03/13/are-we-experiencing-a-communist-infiltration-sponsored-by-the-united-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-1093
(btw. I don&#039;t believe in a &quot;communist infiltration&quot;)
then this one, a bit more technical.......
http://jennifermarohasy.com/2015/04/survey-denying-my-position-on-climate-change/#comment-576587
Cheers and happy reading,
Mack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Whitmore ,  (and others here)<br />
 I&#8217;m sorry , but you are all terribly wrong about Global Warming caused by humans.  Start reading here&#8230;..<br />
<a href="http://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2013/03/13/are-we-experiencing-a-communist-infiltration-sponsored-by-the-united-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-1093" rel="nofollow">http://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2013/03/13/are-we-experiencing-a-communist-infiltration-sponsored-by-the-united-nations/comment-page-1/#comment-1093</a><br />
(btw. I don&#8217;t believe in a &#8220;communist infiltration&#8221;)<br />
then this one, a bit more technical&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://jennifermarohasy.com/2015/04/survey-denying-my-position-on-climate-change/#comment-576587" rel="nofollow">http://jennifermarohasy.com/2015/04/survey-denying-my-position-on-climate-change/#comment-576587</a><br />
Cheers and happy reading,<br />
Mack.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hyndman</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hyndman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely agree]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bingham</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Bingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 03:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have just been pointed to the website by a freind who also lives in Kerikeri.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just been pointed to the website by a freind who also lives in Kerikeri.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bingham</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Bingham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2015 00:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I run a website on climate change and do talks in Northland on the way the climate is going to effect our future.  My main interest is spreading the information  of the dangers of climate change so if I can do anything to help I will. Bob.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run a website on climate change and do talks in Northland on the way the climate is going to effect our future.  My main interest is spreading the information  of the dangers of climate change so if I can do anything to help I will. Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2015 10:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Sir, Really interested with your opinions, as Climate issue is a global problem, what is your opinion regarding linking up with the U.K. with Climate.org.UK]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir, Really interested with your opinions, as Climate issue is a global problem, what is your opinion regarding linking up with the U.K. with Climate.org.UK</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Painting</title>
		<link>http://www.climate.org.nz/people/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Painting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 07:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interestingly, much the same thing was said to me last week. It seems a sensible way forward. We can disagree about the less urgent matters, but act responsibly to address the urgent ones.  And there is no more urgent case then the need to curb fossil fuel emissions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, much the same thing was said to me last week. It seems a sensible way forward. We can disagree about the less urgent matters, but act responsibly to address the urgent ones.  And there is no more urgent case then the need to curb fossil fuel emissions.</p>
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